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Necessary Forum Expansion
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(04-24-2025, 02:35 AM)Queuenard Wrote:
(04-09-2025, 12:11 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: The problem with Blockland discords is that there's so many of them so it's impossible to centralize community discussion in real-time. There's like 28 of them and they're never really that active, it's not like the Glass Live where you could talk to everyone online in the IRC, invite people to servers, PM people, etc. The most prominent discords also have powertripping discord mods which causes extreme community division.
I think we're in a "post-IRC" (or Glass Live) situation with Blockland for now unless we had tons more players. The least we can offer is a neutral place for sharing information where you aren't cut off from reading information because you broke some stupid rule (Discord "servers") and you're not cut off from participating because of something you did over 10 years ago (BLF).

Plus on a proper web-present forum there are plenty of automatic mechanisms (search engines, Internet Archive/Wayback Machine, some of my own tools I'm working on) that can actually give content a much longer lifetime. Discord has broken how the internet and web used to work. Blockland's history will have a giant hole between 2019 and 2025.

Just look at Brickadia: it has a near-zero web presence like it doesn't exist. It will be forgotten.

God I love Blockland Un-united especially getting perma banned from it 7 years ago for becoming Filipe1020's evil cousin Philipe0201 and saying the exact opposite of everything he did as a harmless prank. Now idk when tf people are hosting and neither does anyone else I know because supposedly they're "centerman alts" and i'm "le evil hacker troll" or some shit. That server isn't even active (except the janny rotation they do like shifts in a workplace, it's truly unreal) I also love not having access to BLU so I just have AI make all my addons for me.
Maybe those guys should torquescript themselves a girlfriend.

And we definitely aren't post-IRC with Blockland, if anything we could make it (the chat and the game) more active by bridging the in-game shit with another platform. There just aren't available social features for people to organize outside the game and then communicate in it universally at the same time. I only worry about butthurt jannies muting/banning people for "being offensive" type shit. BLG didnt even failbin my satanminions decals, they just deleted them, and I almost got my fucking key revoked that time I ported AOT shit to Marble Blast Gold.

A proper web presence would probably be something like what Enjin used to be for Minecraft back in the day but it would have to interact with the game client how RTB did.

(04-24-2025, 02:35 AM)Queuenard Wrote:
(04-09-2025, 12:11 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: This forum should be kept to the technical Blockland stuff (modding, servers, archival, etc.) but there also should be a more streamlined addon system (addon managers like RTB/Glass containing the ability to download directly in-game) if at all possible. Drama needs its own containment area, same for community events, and there should be an on-the-fly way to talk to people online and in-game without being in the same server. People fail to realize how useful BLG used to be lmao.
I think that era is also gone until we get a true replacement game and rebuild the community.

A replacement game isn't happening. It already happened and it's a disaster.
YOU vill own NOTHING, pay $60 for the UNMODDABLE GLORIFIED TECH DEMO the transgroypers threw together in a couple of weeks (and it shows) and BE HAPPY. They really put more time and effort into LGBBQ cosmetics then actual gameplay, despite it being in UE4 it somehow looks worse than Blockland. Then they said "Yup, it's done" and ported their save files to VRchat so they could do their furry yiff shit in ACM city's jail cell. What family rp does to people.

This is the worst timeline and you're gonna have to accept that, and knowing that you're gonna have to frankenstein this corpse back to life to prevent it from rotting. BLG was goated as fuck, so y'know how the b4v21fags somehow got their version of RTB functional in that sketchy remote code execution mess of a "revival" project? Tell me why that can't be done to regular Blockland, Glass is abandonware at this point.

And rewritten is in an unplayable, laggy as fuck state, Badspot was not fucking joking about maps/shader compatibility, but yall couldn't cut my man some slack. And just like Dickadia, they "optimized" it, said "Yup, it's done" and then put more work into moderating the everliving fuck out of their custom master server then they did developing the whole mod. 

Borrowed Time was a prophecy and none of you fuckers thought to listen for a second. Now look where we are, not even on BLF. Can't wait to see the last 2 of you guys in the Rockraiders United "Who here remembers Blockland" thread in another 10 years. Don’t forget: you’re here forever
(04-24-2025, 02:35 AM)Queuenard Wrote:
(04-09-2025, 12:11 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: Talking about other games (except AOT) is always going to stir drama, especially talking about direct competitors. They have their own platforms, don't bring that trash here. While I disagree with blogposting, let ppl do it idgaf, having a true off-topic board is great for threads where you post real-life pictures of yourself and having threads like "(example) IS A forgetting BADMIN AND WE SHOULD CRUCIFY HIM D=<" you don't have to respond to that OP's replybait, simple as.
If we're big enough we would have to worry about that. I don't treat this as a serious problem right now.

Frickadians are constantly out for blood and will do anything to promote their slop (IE putting their unoptimized 10k+ brick car build in BLF's gallery) so it's only a matter of time. Brickkiddies will cry when the BlockMEN get sick of seeing builds made in the knockoff game and actually do something about it, for once. Imagine going on a Blockland forum and clicking on a gallery thread only to see ugly non-blockland slop might as well post Roblox like you mistyped Ironnoob's URL.
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#12
(05-01-2025, 05:28 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: God I love Blockland Un-united especially getting perma banned from it 7 years ago...
Yeah that's the unfortunate part of walled gardens. Once you get kicked out you lose out on a lot of information. There's an incredible amount of resources and problem diagnosing in BCC for Blockland that'll never find its way to anyone outside of that server. At least if it's on the web you can still reference it even if you've been barred from participating.

(05-01-2025, 05:28 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: And we definitely aren't post-IRC with Blockland...
The game is showing its age. A growing number of TLDs require HTTPS and plenty of websites outright refuse to serve via HTTP which prevent Blockland from communicating with websites using normal TCPObjects. Anything sitting behind Cloudflare is typically a no-go as well. It's still possible, just harder. Shock recently worked on Blockland Glass here back around January, so maybe something will come of that.

Also, I recall Badspot being pretty against porting AOT or other content of his around, so that may be why BLG just deleted your mod, though it would have been nice if they gave you a reason as to why.

(05-01-2025, 05:28 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: A replacement game isn't happening. It already happened and it's a disaster.
YOU vill own NOTHING, pay $60 for the UNMODDABLE GLORIFIED TECH DEMO...
I tried out the Brickadia demo during next fest. My takeaway was it had a lot of jank going on, but some cool concepts. Too many tools and incomplete systems. The gunplay also wasn't enjoyable due to whatever lag compensation they have going on. I feel like they let scope creep take over, meanwhile their plans for modding keep growing smaller. It seems like they're sticking with it though which can't be said about all the other attempts. So I can only hope they get on a good route and pull it off.

I know you joke about the cosmetics (some are way over the top), but having a fair share of content baked into the game is good long term. Compare it to a new player's experience with Blockland where they start the game and get met with little to nothing.

(05-01-2025, 05:28 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: This is the worst timeline and you're gonna have to accept that, and knowing that you're gonna have to frankenstein this corpse back to life to prevent it from rotting...
B4v21 feels like a bad idea taken too far. Trying to completely reverse engineer the game and cram features in will never lead to a good result. You'd be better off just rewriting Blockland in T3D and modifying the engine to make it compatible with existing stuff. That's not to understate how much work that is, because it's a lot. But it's a much better time sink at least. I didn't have much to look forward to with B4v21 when I saw they preemptively banned people just based on old history.

(05-01-2025, 05:28 AM)Centerman12346 Wrote: Borrowed Time was a prophecy and none of you fuckers thought to listen for a second. Now look where we are, not even on BLF. Can't wait to see the last 2 of you guys in the Rockraiders United "Who here remembers Blockland" thread in another 10 years. Don’t forget: you’re here forever
I'll be here even after the lights go out unfortunately.

On a side note, I don't know how search engines take certain words into account. I feel like Google, etc. will rank sites lower if their bots come across certain words. It's the modern internet after all, and we're stuck living with it for now. For the sake of SEO and making sure this place is able to be found I'd appreciate holding back a bit.
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#13
(05-01-2025, 08:25 PM)Eagle517 Wrote: You'd be better off just rewriting Blockland in T3D and modifying the engine to make it compatible with existing stuff. That's not to understate how much work that is, because it's a lot. But it's a much better time sink at least. 

I hope to one day figure out a way to do that. But most likely under different things to keep it unique.
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